"J" Factory Design Sketches/Pawn Stars

We like to watch the rerunning Waltons on TV and have a friend that knows the family this story was based on,that of Earl Hamner.
On one episode,"John Boy" is trying to scrape up enough money to buy a Ford Model "A" coupe and told his father it had an engine that "runs like a Duesenberg". Must have been true because that old Ford was in nearly every episode.

Bob Roller

I have never thought there was anything Real about these so-called "reality shows" .
I have always had the belief that they were pre scripted & pre arranged .

I also share Bob's opinion on such "realty shows".

I did however find it interesting that they would feature two custom coachwork Duesenberg design drawings on one show segment !


I suspect that they do not know who Richie Cline is despite the fact that he has been running the old Imperial Palace Casino's Auto Museum collection for decades in the very same L.as Vegas town !

Bob Roller wrote: I used to really enjoy the History Channel until they quit showing history and substituted this line of crap and there are no plans to change it.

Bob Roller

Cant argue with that, Bob.

While I do watch Pawn Stars reruns on occasion (it's on constantly), don't consider any "reality TV" as anything more than a diversion. Weather Channel, the same thing. Can't count on "weather on the 8s" anymore, what good is it?

Pawn Stars,Swamp People and similar tripe are neither informational or anything else. Antiques Roadshow is another one that gives a false reality to people who have items that they think are valuable just because they are "old" or belonged to Grandpaw.These shows are to me the proof of a generational decline in TV.I used to really enjoy the History Channel until they quit showing history and substituted this line of crap and there are no plans to change it.

Bob Roller

The drawing that had been signed by Hershey sure looked like an swb version Murphy boat tail speedster to me. Similar, except for length, to the speedster Don Carr donated to the ACD Auto Museum. I was expecting them to consult Richie Clyne on these artifacts.

Just finished watching an episode of "Pawn Stars" where a customer comes into the shop with two small cheapy framed original Model "J" Custom Coachwork Design drawings he wishes to sell for ~~~~
$25,000 each !.

This was possibly a older "Re-run" show episode ~~~
Did anyone else see this show ?

One design sketch was signed by Frank Hershey & the other was not signed~~
Hershey was said to have signed this drawing in his later years just before his passing-away.
Hershey was also said to have known who originally drew the second custom design sketch~~~

A so called "Art Expert" was brought-in to the shop as usual and said the Frank Hershey sketch was worth about $4500-$5000. while the other was worth far less~~~
This "Art Expert" was NOT a car guy by any means~

In the end~~~
The customer could Not make a deal he thought was fair with the Pawn Stars folk~~~
He went home with his Dueseberg drawings~~~

Does anyone here know what these drawings might really be worth to a real Duesenberg model "J" collector ?

From the sketches~~

Do both, or any, of these two cars still exist today ?

If so~~~What were the car's original "J" numbers ?

One sketch appeared to be a Boat-Tailed disappearing top sport roadster with dual sidemounts~

The other second design looked similar to a Derham short wheelbase "Tourister" ?

Does anyone know who the coachbuilder might have been for each of these two great model "J"cars ?

I would have thought that these original model "J" custom coachwork designer drawings might be worth far more money the right car collector ? !

AND~~
If the either two cars still exist~~~~I am betting the current collector/owner might give his eye teeth for an original designer custom coachwork sketch drawing of His very own Model "J" Duesenberg ! ! !

I know if I had owned either one of those great spectacular sporty Model "j" cars I would pay crazy money for the original custom coachwok designer sketch of my own personal model "J" Duesenberg ! ! ! !

Any more Information or Opinions ? ? ?