What are those things on the frame?

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29 Oct 2013 18:37 #26208 by BSteinIPMS
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Okay, I give up. Despite all my books on Duesenbergs, including the user, owner, and parts manuals, I can't find an illustration or a description of certain items attached to the frame.

These appear on the outside of the frame just aft of the front wheels, and might be some form of shock absorber or brake component. They seem to be connected via rods to the wheel hub and have some form of articulating motion.

Anyone have an illustration or description? <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->

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30 Oct 2013 13:33 #26210 by landmark
landmark replied the topic: Re: What are those things on the frame?

BSteinIPMS wrote: Okay, I give up. Despite all my books on Duesenbergs, including the user, owner, and parts manuals, I can't find an illustration or a description of certain items attached to the frame.

These appear on the outside of the frame just aft of the front wheels, and might be some form of shock absorber or brake component. They seem to be connected via rods to the wheel hub and have some form of articulating motion.

Anyone have an illustration or description? <!-- s:?: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_question.gif" alt=":?:" title="Question" /><!-- s:?: --> <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: -->



Hello,

sorry, I have not found a photo of a Duesey-frontaxle, but you discripition sounds to me that that item could be a "friction-shockabsorber" (hope it is the right therm in english)

Here I have a link to such a similar device, on another car http://www.flickr.com/photos/klausnahr/9334724823/

These shocks were very popular before the (todays) oil- or gasfilled Absorber entered the stage.

It works more or less like a multi-disc-clutch, with the nut in center you can adjust the friction between the frame- vs. the axle-connected "plates/discs"; how sensitiv the absorber works.


Cheers

Matt

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30 Oct 2013 13:49 #26211 by BSteinIPMS
BSteinIPMS replied the topic: Thanks, Gentlemen!
Hi Matt,

Thanks for your response and explanation; much appreciated! And yes, your English is very good and your description was clear.

Pete sent me three photos of these and says they're shock absorbers. They were installed on the rear wheels as well as the front, a fact that was not clear to me from all the hundreds of photos and dozens of books I've perused.

They appear to have two cylinders, or chambers, with hydraulic fluid or oil within, and I'd suspect a metered orifice exists in between them to restrict the flow of fluid from one chamber to the other in order to obtain the desired damping or rebound rate of the shock.

Pete says this type of shock absorber was made by Delco Lovejoy and was used on Cadillacs of the era as well as Duesenbergs.

Thank you both for the information; I appreciate it very much!

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30 Oct 2013 19:10 #26212 by 61xlch
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Duesenberg J had already hydraulic shock absorbers, the Model A had mechanical "Watson" shock absorbers, works like a big measuring tape.
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Andy

Is this a Duesenberg part:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190949808752?it ... 60&vxp=mtr

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