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Graham Hollywood production begins
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I have to miss St. John's, but if you can make it, go - in addition to the great cars Kellie Janousek got out for Auburn last year, there will be other surprises.
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The Skylark and Hollywood site suggests that either 31 or 32 Skylarks were built by Hupp. I suppose that the records of a company [i:2lr3hct7]in extremis[/i:2lr3hct7] are understandably a little hazy.
hupmobileskylark.com/Skylark_Production1.html
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Btw didn't some of the very last Cords have the tailights on the outside of the body?
And finally, if anyone is in the area my dad and I are bringing our Holllywood Conv to St Johns at the end of July. Swing by and say hi.
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I came across the following photos of a Hupmobile Skylark alleged to have been found in a barn about 2002 or so. I don't know anything about the car's whereabouts or condition today.
I found the following items to be of particular interest:
1) The tail lights are located Westchester-style in the trunk lid, not outside of the trunk opening in the rear body panel; and
2) The wipers are located Cord-style at the top of the windshields, not at the base of the windshields in the cowl.
Pictures I have seen of Graham Hollywoods have the tail lights located to the sides of the trunk opening and the wipers located in tranmissions placed on the cowl.
Does anyone know if the tail light and wiper locations are definitive identification traits distinguishing a Hupp Skylark from a Graham Hollywood?
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Josh Malks wrote: Blown Cord was timed by Autocar magazine in Britain (fussy folks) in 1937 at 13.2 seconds 0-60, top speed of 102.27. Even the unblown 810 hit over 92mph in their tests the previous year.
The Cord's 0-60 time is slowed by its leisurely gearshift. A "stick-shift" Cord could no doubt do better. Ask Roger Von Bergen or Henry Portz.
And I do think that the Graham Hollywood is hot-looking, good-performing vehicle. It's just not quite a Cord.
Josh - I was going to point out that the biggest issue with the Cord's acceleration was the vacum shift. I wonder how much a mechanical setup more like a L29 would shave some time off the acceleration figures? Graham throughout the 30s did some pretty neat stuff. I give them a lot of credit considering they were basically farm equipment manufacturers. They did very well during the war and produced the Kasier Frazier cars after the war. Renamed as the Madison Square Garden Corp they are still around I believe. I wonder how many other pre-war area car manufacturers still exist?
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The Cord's 0-60 time is slowed by its leisurely gearshift. A "stick-shift" Cord could no doubt do better. Ask Roger Von Bergen or Henry Portz.
And I do think that the Graham Hollywood is hot-looking, good-performing vehicle. It's just not quite a Cord.
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Josh Malks wrote: What was the Graham's 0-60 time?
The Graham is significantly lighter and the blown engine (124 hp) gives a good power to weight ratio. I'm not sure if this is completely accurate but it looks close. Obviously the Cord is a timeless classic. But I consider the Hollywoods to be kind of cool.
SPECIFICATIONS
TOP SPEED
89 mph (142.4 km/h)
0-60 mph (0-96 KM/H) 14.6 sec
ENGINE TYPE In-line six
DISPLACEMENT 218 ci (3,572 cc)
TRANSMISSION 3-speed manual
MAXIMUM POWER 124 bhp (92 kW) @ 4,000 rpm
MAXIMUM TORQUE 182 lb ft (247 Nm) @ 2,400 rpm
WEIGHT 3,240 lb (1,472 kg)
ECONOMY 17 mpg (6.01 km/l)
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I do not doubt that the fact that this Cord is driven regularly has played an important role in its longevity and reliability. Sure, something may break or get out of adjustment, but any piece of 70+ year old machinery requires some attention.
Drive your Cord (or Auburn or Duesenberg). You will be happy and the car will be happy.
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In fact, Josh has the confidence of knowing that other motorists pass him only with [i:39t3hvik]his [/i:39t3hvik]permission ...
And Graham's don't get his permission!
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alsancle wrote: The biggest difference between the Hollywood and the Skylark was Graham got the supercharged 6 and the Hupp did not. Not that I want to start a battle but I think a Graham will take a Cord up to 60 mph.
Not Josh's Cord! I have ridden in the Moonshadow a number of times and that thing scares the hell out of me!
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Hey Bill, thats not a Texas license plate on the PU truck!
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You...you...TRAITOR!
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I think the disappearing headlights and hood louvers contributed a lot to the "modern" look of the Cord. When Graham replaced them with "typical" features it put the design back in 1937. Still a good-looking barge, though.
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