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Gear Selector Switch Wiring
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I should be driving down the road right now, right? Wrong!!!!
The startix is not even clicking or blipping the amp meter when I press down the clutch. I'm assuming I've landed my red wire on the wrong spot on the clutch switch? I've tried #1 and #2, but not #3.
Any thoughts?
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1748 S wrote: Thats a great find. Glad its been corrected. Can you share who you purchased the harness from? It will really help myself n others. But checking the complete harness BEFORE installation is a fabulous idea. One that I plan to do.
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It is the custom RI Wiring harness that goes from to back. It took some sleuthing to figure it out. If you held it a certain way it would read ok, but if you moved it would go to OL. I can't imagine how bad it would be to figure it out once the harness was pulled.
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My advice is to test continuity on the entire harness before soldering it on to the switch.
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Good thing I'm not working flat rate. Just about two hours of goofing around to get the switch back in the housing. Have not started the continuity tests on the different gear positions yet.
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I recently had one where both pieces looked great, but after much trouble shooting I pulled the switch apart and put both pieces on the pencil and pushed them together. When looking at it closely from the side you could see the one contact was not touching. A little bit of saning on the other contacts and everything worked well (at least that part did, but that's another story).
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mikespeed35 wrote: I'm sure Curt can tell stories, but suppose to be -9 tonight here in MI. tonight. If you want to shrink some metal just set it outside.
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The AACA forum has that great thread on where a car guy should retire to. My only contribution was "Not Massachusetts".
January here was clear, dry and 35-40 degrees and I worked in the yard every day. In fact, I drove cars around early in the month. Feb has had 4 snow storms and temps near zero at night.
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The real shame is that once you become an expert then your skills at such become irrelevant as your project is done.
we are having a snow storm - sounded like lightening and disregarded as being snow plows - nope, it really is thunder while snowing - as much fun as this afternoons 24 degrees and rain downpour.
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feedtaleone wrote: I ordered the one piece loom from RI wiring. Looks like 8-10 weeks which reminds me I should have been moving quicker earlier in the summer. Also, I ordered the fake plug from Henry Portz.
I'm aiming for the 1 year anniversary of me starting the project to be finished. I've been stalling for two weeks because I need to make the wafer to organize the wires. I have about another 8 weeks to go.
Considering we have gotten about 2 feet of snow in the last 2 weeks there isn't much hurry if driving was my aim.
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JIM.OBRIEN wrote: AL, After you clean things up put the wafer and the shwitch on the pencil and gently push them together. Carefully look from the side and make sure the three buttons on the wafer are making contact with the switch face. I recently had a switch were one contact wasn't touching when the pencil was in place. It drove me nuts trying to find the problem. After I figured it out the owner told me he just changed out the wafer because it looked better then the one that was in there.
Jim, if I hold the wafer up to the switch the button all touch. I was messing with putting them on the pencil without using the housing and I was failing miserably at it. Do I just slide them on to the pencil as you show them in your pictures?
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The diagram on page 4 (May 12th) shows the wire separator. I made mine out of fish paper and punched the holes with a leather punch. I also inserted a roll of fish paper between the switch and the casting.....just in case.
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uconn_1965 wrote: Jim: you are 100% correct. One thing I might add is before you start to soldier any wires, make sure you feed the 10 wires thru that round cardboard separator at rear of switch the keeps the wires separated from the shift pencil moving in and out when selecting gears.
So I didn't have a separator when we took ours apart. Is it critical, and if so anyone know where I can find one? If not, maybe a picture and I'll make one?
thanks.
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Al - Don't worry about screwing it up, it's really tought to screw it up to the point of no return. Before you attach the wires take a good look at the contacts inside the switch and make sure they are not worn out. I have seen several that have holes worn in the contacts down inside the switch.
I see one of the contacts on the wafer is worn. Put the wafer on the pencil and put the pencil in the switch and make sure all three contacts on the wafer are hitting the face of the switch. I had one recently where one didn't make contact and it drove me crazy trying to find the problem (it didn't help the owner was sitting there watching).
When you solder the wires on start with the longest (the 4 wires that go to the face) wires first and work your way to the back triming the wires as you go so they lay in there neatly. Use enough solder to secure the wires on the terminal, but no a big glob. THen follow the testing I documented in the artilce. It may seam excessive but if you follow it you will catch any problems early and when you are done you know the switch is working properly and not giving you any problems.
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I'm really trying to come up with a way to disconnect the switch at the column. But I only get one shot with the harness I have and screwing it up would be catastrophic.
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I found it strange that my NOS selector switch comes with the wires attached.
Any ideas how the factory suggested it be done?
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You need tiny but strong pull string. And you need to tape in a way that doesn't bulk up the package.
Hopefully Friday we solder.
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You have a very nice looking phaeton.
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Because I eliminated the plug I have the one piece harness. I'm not sure I could pull the entire thing down from the top?
I do agree it would be much nicer to do the solder work on a bench. I've been evaluating the notion of soldering very small portions of wire to the switch on the bench and then using solder seals to do the connections. The solder seals just get heated with a heat gun. The issue is clearance as the seals are slightly larger in diameter than the wire.
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